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| <Malte>
| AGENDA:
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| 1 Status of the Teams
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| <Malte>
| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| <Malte>
| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), MaJun, duyunfen
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| 2 Open discussions
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| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| .
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| <larsb>
| no news.
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| .
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| .
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| <Malte>
| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), MaJun, duyunfen
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| <duyunfen>
| I'm testing the finished control's drawing shape.but I have some problem on the style's implement.I try to resolve it.
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| <xiuzhi>
| Malte: Majun is on holiday, she will return office next week.
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| <Svante>
| I have returned from holiday and no news from me so far..
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| <Svante>
| Next update on ODFDOM next week..
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| .
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| 2 Open discussions
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| <Svante>
| I have seen several questions, yet unanswered on the list. I am a little distracted by some ODF 1.2 specification deadline this week-end....
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| <Svante>
| Come to them next week.. Sorry for the delay..
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| <xiuzhi>
| Malte: Do you know the status of odfreader? Is there a project schedule?
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| <bei>
| what is odfreader?
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| <Malte>
| I am also not aware of an ODFReader...
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| <Svante>
| xiuzhi: Have you some further information on odfreader?
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| <Malte>
| xiuzhi: Any more information about what odfreader should be?
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| <Malte>
| Uuup, Svante already asked ;)
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante:I remembered that IBM said that www.odftoolkit.org project will develop odfReader on Nov 5th.
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante: I google it. and found a OdfReader firfox plugin
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante: that is all
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante: the version is 0.2x
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante: I want to know is there a plan to develop the OdfReader by Odftoolkit team?
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| <Malte>
| OK, probably nothing related to odftoolkit then....
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| <Malte>
| But I am sure we could creat and provide such thing, if needed :)
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| <Malte>
| Anything else?
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| <Malte>
| OK, seems we are done then....
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| <Malte>
| No response? OK, let me rephrase: Session is over, people are free to leave now ;)
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| <Malte>
| Bye :)
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| <xiuzhi>
| bye
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| <Dieter_>
| Malte: why is an ODFreader not related to the odftoolkit project? We clearly stated that odftoolkit is a home for ODF related applications.
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| <odf-mib>
| bye
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| <xiuzhi>
| Dieter_:)
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| <Malte>
| Dieter_: As I said - it's a ff plugin from somebody we don't know.
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| <Malte>
| We could contact him, or create our own for odftoolkit.org, if wanted
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| <bei>
| Dieter: yeah well but people+projects have to join the club before they are part of the club ;-)
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| <Malte>
| I suggest tha later then, because we know that we can do
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| <Dieter_>
| bei: yes, that's right
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| <xiuzhi>
| Dieter_: MS has pptview ,docview ... they are very good
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| <Dieter_>
| xiuzhi: yes, and I agree that we need to have similar readers for ODF
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| <bei>
| Didn´t svante someday do something experimental in this area also using a modified OpenOffice.org XSLT transformation?
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| <xiuzhi>
| Dieter_: and light-weight
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| <Svante_>
| bei: That was just the public XHTML export of OOo as a firefox extension
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante_ : Yes. a plugin is not enough, That is why I ask OdfReader
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| Svante_: I try the plugin , I like it. It make me read odf files easier
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| xiuzhi: what do you thing an OdfReader should be than? Something like a lightwigth read-only OOo, why have that when you can have read-write one for free?
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| bei: leight-wight is becoming more and more popular
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| bei: OOo it too big now and it would be more big
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| <bei>
| *hmm* than what´s light-wigther than a plugin for firefox which uses a XSL-Transformation to display ODF?
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| bei: pardon?
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| <bei>
| You said a plugin is not enough. This i could not understand. Because using an existing browser + a very small plugin seems to be the lightweightest solution to me!
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| <Malte>
| Sorry for interruption, but I have to leave for an other meeting
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| <Malte>
| Please continue your discussion
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| <bei>
| ok bye
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| <Malte>
| But Bernd: Please put log into http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Minutes/2008_11
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| <Malte>
| Can you?
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| <Dieter_>
| I have to leave for an other meeting too - bye!
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| <xiuzhi>
| bei: yes. It can work for browser. we need a read-only application, such as some embeded devices. there is no more resource for a big OOo
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| <xiuzhi>
| Dieter_:bye
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| <bei>
| xiuzhi: ok understood.
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| <bei>
| have too leave too, bye
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante_: Do you have any idea about OdfReader?
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| <Svante_>
| xiuzhi: No, that was why I asked about the link to the IBM quote you have been refering to
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| <xiuzhi>
| Svante_ : Ok. have a good weekend. bye
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| AGENDA:
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| <Malte>
| 1 Status of the Teams
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| <Malte>
| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| <Malte>
| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), liuyuhua, duyunfen
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| <Malte>
| 2 Open discussions
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| <Malte>
| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| Anybody except Lars?
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| <Malte>
| Probably not...
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| .
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| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), liuyuhua, duyunfen
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| .
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| I'm testing the finished part of form control's shape.
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| <odf-mib>
| Not sure if this has been mentioned already here:
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| There is a downloadable version of ODFDOM on odftoolkit.org now.
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| <odf-mib>
| Ans there is also a new Mercurial repository available now.
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| <Malte>
| Hey... ;)
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| Update on AODL?
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| <larsb>
| morning, sorry, i had to solve some trouble with another product :(
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| no news.
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| <Malte>
| product == car? ;)
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| <Malte>
| Some info about ODFDOM?
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| <larsb>
| no software ;)
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| <liutao>
| majun will take over the task of liuyuhua's
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| <Malte>
| So liuyuhua won't continue here?
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| <liutao>
| Hi MaJun , Please introduce yourself.:)
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| Ping Liuyuhua
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| Malte: I will not do the work of odfdom,I now do the work of sw about the frm with oliver.
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| <liuyuhua>
| Malte: MaJun will do the work instead of me.
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| <MaJun>
| hi all,
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| <MaJun>
| This is MaJun, from the OpenSource technology department of Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software. I've been working with Redflag for nearly 2 years, I'd love to join the odftoolkit and interested in participating for contribution. i'm a member of ODF-TC too.
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| <Dieter_>
| Hi MaJun, welcome on board!
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| <MaJun>
| Dieter_: thank you:)
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| <Malte>
| So I guess Svante will contact you via email to discuss how to start...
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| <Malte>
| Anything else to discuss today?
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| <bei>
| I would like to push the idea again to register a org.w3c.dom.DomImplemententationSource at the org.w3c.dom.bootstrap.DomImplementationRegistry in odfdom for ODF similiar to what xerces does with HTML and WML DOM Implementations.
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| <Malte>
| Seems nobody else here as an opinion about that, so please discuss with Svante...
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| <bei>
| ok will do when I am back from vacation
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| <Dieter_>
| ODF-MIB: what's your take on bei's proposal?
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| <odf-mib>
| From this short description I have no opnion on this as well.
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| <odf-mib>
| I need more details here. Maybe we can discuss this separately.
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| <bei>
| Well from how the DOM interface is organiszed you can request a DOM Implementation from a central registry requesting certain features of the DOM Implementation like HTML Support. And I just think odfdom should implement these interfaces.
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| <odf-mib>
| Okay. Sounds reasonable to me. Does it work ony with xerces?
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| <bei>
| No it´s DOM standard should be implemented by other parsers implementiong DOM Level 3 as well.
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| <odf-mib>
| In that case, I have no objections.
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| <bei>
| ok
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| <odf-mib>
| Another topic: Did anyone subscribe to the new odftoolkit mailing list at odftoolkit.org?
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| <odf-mib>
| anyone -> eveyrone?
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| <MaJun>
| i subscribed
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| <bei>
| Well I did.
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| <Dieter_>
| yes
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| <Malte>
| I have to go to another meeting which I am the host for...
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| <Malte>
| Anything else for today?
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| <Malte>
| OK, seems we are done then :)
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| <Malte>
| duyunfen: What about the others from your side?
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| <Malte>
| slaydragon: Any more information about yourself?
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| <Malte>
| Thanks :)
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| Hi!
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| <slaydragon>
| Malte: oh, i didnt realize there was some sort of meeting on. I dont intend to be here right now. :D (I drop in for the OO.o odf stuff sometimes - I work on KWord.)
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| <Svante>
| good afternoon
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| <Malte>
| Feel free to stay :)
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| <Malte>
| Has KOffice any intention to use ODFDOM, now that it is not part of OOo anymore?
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| <duyunfen>
| good afternoon,Svante and Larsb.:)
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| <larsb>
| hi duyunfen :)
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| <duyunfen>
| hi,lars:)
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| <duyunfen>
| liuyuhua is on leave today.
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| <slaydragon>
| KOffice uses a custom XML parser, not even Qt's native parser, which works fine. It should be pretty difficult to move to another XML parser, I imagine. I dont think there's any talk of moving to odfdom.
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| <Malte>
| OK - make sure to register to odftoolkit.org and monitor what's going on :)
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| <larsb>
| duyunfen: ok
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| <Malte>
| Feedback from KOffice welcome, of course :)
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| <Svante>
| @slagdragon It's not so much about the parser, it is more about the DOM object model
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| <Svante>
| But you might take a look at it later, slaydragon
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| <Malte>
| I think we start with the agenda now, other discussions afterwards...
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| <slaydragon>
| Malte: ok, i'll check out the link
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| <duyunfen>
| lars: :)
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| <Malte>
| AGENDA:
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| <Malte>
| 1 Status of the Teams
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| <Malte>
| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| <Malte>
| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), liuyuhua, duyunfen
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| 2 Open discussions
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| .
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| <Malte>
| 1.1 AODL: Lars (lb)
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| .
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| <larsb>
| no news ....
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| .
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| 1.2 ODFDOM/ODF4J: Svante, Christian (cl), liuyuhua, duyunfen
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| .
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| <duyunfen>
| I'm still doing the convenient layer about form control.Some controls can be inserted directly with some default properties,like checkbox and button and label.The work was delayed,but I'll speed up.
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| <duyunfen>
| The meeting with Svante and Lars last week had gave me some inspiration.Thank you, Svante and Lars!:)
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| <Svante>
| You are welcome.. It was real fun in Beijing
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| <Svante>
| We will have a mayor change with the package names ...
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| <Svante>
| switching to org.odftoolkit from org.openoffice
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| <Svante>
| Still working on my manifest DOM CWS..
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| <Svante>
| The CWS is not uploaded yet, I will do when I am back from China
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| <Svante>
| Nothing else from me..
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| <Malte>
| OK - open discussions then...
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| <Svante>
| Perhaps, that I am about to refactor OdfName and OdfNamespace as it is basically the same functionality in two classes
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| <Svante>
| This is the nice thing about vacations, you can work on low priority stuff.. ;-)
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| <Svante>
| We need some CWS handling on odftoolkit.org..
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| <Svante>
| Anybody anything else to discuss?
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| <larsb>
| not sure if we really need this, but for now I think we could also use branches ....
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| <Malte>
| Did all of you already sign in to odftoolkit.org?
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| <Svante>
| If there are different user rights, than it is fine for me
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| <bei>
| yes but i did not get developer status yet.
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| <larsb>
| svante: no, same rights ....
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| <Svante>
| Right mgmt would make review necessary..
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| <larsb>
| svante: let's discuss that when you are back ...
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| <Svante>
| Yes..
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| <Svante>
| It's getting dark anyway here..
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| <Svante>
| Till soon... My greetings from Shanghai
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| <Malte>
| OK - bye then :)
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