ReleaseStatus Minutes 2008-04-21 IRC log

(15:00:30) rafaella: Hi, everybody!
(15:00:34) ja_: hi
(15:00:49) volkerme: Hi
(15:01:43) jj618: hi
(15:01:45) _Nesshof_: moin
(15:02:24) _Nesshof_: can we take review of 2.4 issues from our agenda ?
(15:02:33) stefan_b: Moin!
(15:02:51) _Nesshof_: review of issues for 3.0 beta:
(15:02:55) _rene_: .. and add 2.4.1 ones insted? ;-)
(15:03:18) _Nesshof_: _rene_: 2.4.1 is already on the agenda
(15:03:32) _Nesshof_: see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ReleaseStatus_Minutes#Agenda_for_next_meeting
(15:04:07) _rene_: uhm, no, it says schedule, not issues ;-)
(15:04:28) _rene_: but I am nit-picking, yes...
(15:04:37) _Nesshof_: ok, we should enhance this the also to issues
(15:05:06) _Nesshof_: 3.0 Beta blockers: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/showdependencytree.cgi?id=87736
(15:05:17) UweL: I would like to accept the whole bunch under the 2.4.1 meta issue 88358 as stoppers, opinions?
(15:05:24) IZBot: api TASK NEW P3 runner: cfgmgr2.OInnerValueSetUpdateAccess::com::sun::star::container::XHierarchicalNameAccess http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88358
(15:05:30) ***_rene_ wonders why akhva removed issue 87890
(15:05:37) IZBot: utilities DEFECT STARTED P2 xpdf security buggy. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87890
(15:05:41) _rene_: it's in the source...
(15:05:56) _Nesshof_: uwe I'm currently dealing with 3.0 blockers, 2.4.1 blockers will be next agenda point
(15:06:03) _rene_: people who build the extension out of current souce will have problems
(15:06:15) _rene_: and it's trivial to do, just apply all those patches :)
(15:06:27) ja_: I'll remove the 2.4.0 from the agenda
(15:06:46) ***volkerme just added the 2.4.1 issues
(15:08:06) _Nesshof_: _rene_: by looking at http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_activity.cgi?id=87736 I would still expect that the issue is still in the list ?
(15:08:28) _Nesshof_: _rene_: sorry, you're right
(15:09:25) _Nesshof_: _rene_: may be the issue handling is not clear to him
(15:09:47) rafaella: _Nesshof_, there are 2 localization issues: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88325 and http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88387 which need to be resolved for Beta
(15:10:05) IZBot: issue 88387: l10n DEFECT NEW P2 2 buttons in calc solver are English
(15:10:20) _rene_: wow. 2 buttons not translated. very important ;-)
(15:10:35) mod__ [n=mod@dslb-084-063-253-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:10:36) MechtiIde: issue 88325
(15:10:42) IZBot: l10n DEFECT NEW P3 [3.0 l10n CWS] "Template and Document" is not translated for all of languages http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88325
(15:10:48) rafaella: _rene_, it's a merge issue that needs to be resolved
(15:11:10) _rene_: rafaella: I didn't deny that it should be fixed, I just don't see how t his is a blocker for a *beta*
(15:11:23) MechtiIde: rafaella, therefore we found some problems on weekend
(15:12:51) MechtiIde: there is a different between the CWS-Build and m9
(15:12:55) rafaella: _rene_ .... but I do see that it is important
(15:13:10) _Nesshof_: _rene_: since the extension has it's own schedule it has been removed as blocker for the Office beta
(15:13:42) _rene_: _Nesshof_: yeah, and you leave everyone building the source and registering the extension vulnerable. very good plan :)
(15:14:30) _Nesshof_: artem is already fixing that, I think
(15:14:33) rafaella: MechtiIde, yes, there is a difference
(15:15:14) _rene_: _Nesshof_: I don't see action from him, sorry. creating a cws for this is trivial. Why didn't he do it yet?
(15:15:26) ***_rene_ of course could too, but...
(15:15:38) _rene_: he introduced the security bug deliberately, he should fix it :)
(15:15:45) _Nesshof_: as I understoood him, he's working on that in this moment
(15:16:29) _rene_: so why did he remove it from the blocker list if he works on it right now and it can be integrated into BEA300? ;-)
(15:17:17) _rene_: (or even a m11 or whatever BEA300 will branch off, I guess it won't from m7 anymore)
(15:17:18) Fridrich: go _rene_ go _rene_ go !!!
(15:17:28) bettina-h [n=Bettina_@nat/sun/x-a7577c081895f6b6] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:18:30) _rene_: _Nesshof_: sorry, but your arguments don't make sense. the fixes are there and can just be cat foo >> <patchfile>'ed and the cws set to RfQA.
(15:18:53) _rene_: _Nesshof_: and if he fixes it right now it can still go into beta, and won't delay it. so why removing it from the blocker list?
(15:19:26) Fridrich: +1 for making security issues a prio
(15:19:50) ***_Nesshof_ agrees that this is high prio and should go into BEA300
(15:20:03) Fridrich: OTOH, xpdf is a strainer if one speaks about security holes, so we will be having some of them from time to time
(15:20:11) _rene_: (well, not cat foo >> patchfile exactly, as you need to fix the headers t o apply with -p3 and test-build the small xpdf module, but..)
(15:20:26) _rene_: Fridrich: yep
(15:20:29) _Nesshof_: Fridrich is repeating _rene_ s word
(15:20:57) _Nesshof_: rtimm: would you accept this as master fix ?
(15:21:36) _Nesshof_: rtimm: who will do BEA300_m1 ?
(15:21:53) blauwal: _Nesshof_: me
(15:22:15) rtimm: No, not really as masterfix. No full blown QA cycle including auto tests, but at least build tests for more than one platform.
(15:22:15) _Nesshof_: blauwal: please work with artem and _rene_ to get this done in m1
(15:22:32) _Nesshof_: ?
(15:22:33) ***rtimm has made bad experience with some external modules ...
(15:22:48) blauwal: _Nesshof_: I integrate whatts ready ... I'm not in politics :)
(15:23:12) ***_Nesshof_ is confident that RE and _rene_ will handle it in a safe manner
(15:23:52) _Nesshof_: are we all fine with the remaining 3.0 blocker issues ?
(15:24:01) ***_rene_ won't. I already extracted the patches and I can't do more anyway :). As said, it's just a matter of cat a b c >> foo and fixing the headers.
(15:24:08) MechtiIde: issue 87732
(15:24:11) _Nesshof_: do we need to answer any 3.0 escalation on the releasess list ?
(15:24:20) MechtiIde: is a blocker under linux
(15:24:24) IZBot: Installation DEFECT REOPENED P2 Beta must be installable next to OOo 2.x http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87732
(15:24:43) MechtiIde: and the last comments
(15:25:04) MechtiIde: that you can't isntall m9 after m7
(15:26:27) _rene_: anyway
(15:26:33) _rene_: where will BEA300 branch from?
(15:26:42) _rene_: I somehow don't believe it's still m7 ;-)
(15:26:49) _Nesshof_: MechtiIde: I'm not sure if I really got your problem ?
(15:27:31) _Nesshof_: _rene_: from m10
(15:28:46) MechtiIde: When I install I found collision against packages as from m7 as from 2.4
(15:29:08) MechtiIde: by installing m9
(15:29:24) _Nesshof_: name collision between 2.4 and 3.0 beta ?
(15:29:36) _Nesshof_: then it looks like a stopper for me as well
(15:29:40) MechtiIde: I do it yesterday together with Andre Schnabel
(15:29:50) MechtiIde: yes name collision
(15:30:13) MechtiIde: and it takes some hours to get it right
(15:30:48) _Nesshof_: that's all for OOo 3.0 Beata status for today ?
(15:30:57) MechtiIde: and between m5 or m7 to m9
(15:31:16) _Nesshof_: 2.4.1 blockers:
(15:31:32) MechtiIde: _Nesshof_, I think the unistall informations are missing
(15:31:34) _Nesshof_: UweL: you want to start with these issues ?
(15:32:17) UweL: issue 88258, I would like to accept them all, opinions?
(15:32:24) IZBot: tools TASK NEW P3 track potential 2.4.1 blockers http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88258
(15:33:05) UweL: I think we do not need to discuss every single issue
(15:34:32) _rene_: where did the hebrew issue go?
(15:34:55) _Nesshof_: stefan_b: do you have a cws name for hebrew ?
(15:35:17) _rene_: (and I don't mean the Vista issue but the number one)
(15:35:20) stefan_b: _Nesshof_, what "hebrew"?
(15:35:22) MechtiIde: _Nesshof_, also one problem with installing the Beta version
(15:35:28) _Nesshof_: rtimm: who will do the "hebrew" milestone on the OOH codeline ?
(15:35:50) MechtiIde: there are two directories , one named as ooo-dev and one named as openoffice.org
(15:36:12) MechtiIde: the second one overwrite the 2.4 installation
(15:36:13) rtimm: Not decided yet, as we did not get any estimate when it is needed.
(15:36:30) _rene_: that's not true (see the last meeting) ;-)
(15:36:37) _rene_: "next week" -> this week ;-)
(15:37:10) rtimm: _rene_: Oh, sorry - did we say that? I must have forgotten
(15:37:54) jj618: Concerning the OOo 3.0 Beta status: There are some more l10n issues, except for the two which Rafaella mentioned. IMO these issues are not blockers for the Beta release, so that I'd like to fix them only on the DEV300 codeline and not on the BEA300 codeline.
(15:38:16) jj618: Want some issues ids for these l10n issues?
(15:39:04) rafaella: jj618, yes, please
(15:39:05) _Nesshof_: jj618: yes
(15:39:43) jj618: Issues 88441, 88444, 88325, 88387, 88461, 88465, 88469, 88471, 88478
(15:40:11) _Nesshof_: IZBot: ?
(15:40:34) stefan_b: CWS "rtl4vista with issue 77976 will be approved by QA today.
(15:40:52) IZBot: Word processor PATCH VERIFIED FIXED P3 Vista: Incorrect placing of Hebrew characters with justified text http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=77976
(15:40:55) _rene_: and the numbers fix?
(15:41:28) _rene_: (issue 86811)
(15:41:57) jj618: IZBot does not seem to like so many issues at once, so I'll give some details on the l10n issues...
(15:42:34) jj618: issue 88441 and 88444: Files have not been translated.
(15:42:48) IZBot: l10n DEFECT NEW P3 Y error bars dialog not localized http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88441
(15:43:08) jj618: issues i88325 and 88387 were already mentioned by Rafaella
(15:43:12) _rene_: can we please do one thing at one time and do those minor l10n issues for 3.0 after we did the important 2.4(.1) hebrew ones. TIA:
(15:43:23) rafaella: jj618, why is there no target set?
(15:43:39) jj618: issue 88461 is about some strings not translated in the start center. Seems easy to fix.
(15:43:48) IZBot: l10n DEFECT NEW P3 Start Center half localized in FR http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88461
(15:43:49) jj618: Rafaella: Which issue?
(15:43:54) rtimm: _rene_: Issue 86811 seems to be registered at CWS os113
(15:44:02) IZBot: Word processor DEFECT NEW P2 WW8: arabic/hindi numbers instead of decimal numbers http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=86811
(15:44:09) _Nesshof_: issue 86811 will go into os113
(15:44:12) rafaella: jj618, 88441 and 88444
(15:44:15) IZBot: Word processor DEFECT NEW P2 WW8: arabic/hindi numbers instead of decimal numbers http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=86811
(15:44:55) rtimm: _rene_: and that CWS is still 'new' - that's what I meant with it's unknown (to me) when we can start the build.
(15:45:00) _rene_: rtimm, _Nesshof_: which is baed on DEV300_m6 and Release 3.0?
(15:45:14) _rene_: doesn't sound like a 2.4.1 cws
(15:45:27) jj618: issues 88465 (came with m6) and 88469 also need new translation
(15:45:40) _rene_: (yes, I know the description says 2.4.1, but..)
(15:45:53) jj618: issue 88471 seems easy to fix
(15:46:02) IZBot: l10n DEFECT NEW P3 Table design pane not localized http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88471
(15:46:36) jj618: issue 88478 is about Tools->Customize->Keyboard Tab having untranslated style families. Not so easy to fix. Needs RFE.
(15:46:46) _rene_: rtimm, _Nesshof_: and I don't believe that the other issues in os113 (which have target 3.0) are suitable for 2.4.1
(15:46:47) IZBot: l10n DEFECT NEW P3 Style names in Tools > Customize > Keybords are not localized http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88478
(15:47:14) _rene_: rtimm, _Nesshof_: so, again the question: what's the status of this fix for the *2.4* series? ;-)
(15:47:42) _Nesshof_: henning is working on this now
(15:47:54) jj618: Rafaella: As to the "why" the issues have no target, I cannot say, as these issues were not created by the RE team, but I'll ask Ivo to set a correct target ;-)
(15:48:02) _Nesshof_: and told me that this changes can be applied to 2.4
(15:49:22) rafaella: jj618, thanks
(15:49:59) _Nesshof_: ok, anything else for 2.4.1 ?
(15:50:34) UweL: not from my side, everything accepted?
(15:50:42) _Nesshof_: anything else for today
(15:50:45) _Nesshof_: UweL: yes
(15:51:54) ja_: will there be any build besides BEA300
(15:51:57) ja_: ?
(15:52:32) rtimm: if not we do not need to branch for BEA
(15:53:04) rtimm: That's only needed when we need to integrate stuff on DEV300 which must not get into beta
(15:53:25) _Nesshof_: rtimm: yes, hr50
(15:53:40) rtimm: _Nesshof_: that one can wait
(15:54:25) rtimm: :-)
(15:54:28) _Nesshof_: tl50
(15:54:35) _Nesshof_: cmcfixes43
(15:54:51) _Nesshof_: mib07, aw055
(15:55:04) jj618: _ja_, that should answer your question.
(15:55:04) _Nesshof_: rtimm: so please branch BEA300 now
(15:55:05) rtimm: OK. So, Ivo will get some work (he's the one for DEV300 m11)
(15:55:26) ja_: thanks
(15:55:33) rtimm: _Nesshof_: branching is already in progress ;-)
(15:55:41) _Nesshof_: rtimm: thanks
(15:56:06) _rene_: rtimm: how can branching from m10 be in progress when m10 is not yet ready?
(15:56:08) _Nesshof_: ok, by
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(15:57:15) jj618: bye
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(15:57:31) bettina-h: bye
(15:57:37) UweL: bye
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(15:58:00) mod__ hat den Raum verlassen
(15:58:12) ja_: bye