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− | + | [15:00] <ericb2> Meeting time ? | |
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+ | [15:00] <Remaille> yes | ||
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+ | [15:00] <Remaille> won't stay further than 15:30 am afraid.. | ||
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+ | [15:01] <ericb2> Remaille: the meeting shouldn't be too long | ||
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+ | [15:01] * ericb2 would like to do some sport outside ;) | ||
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+ | [15:01] <ericb2> Agenda for 1st of February 2008 meeting | ||
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+ | [15:01] <ericb2> 1. Welcome people and devs joining Education project | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:01] <ericb2> 2. Organize a cycle of IRC presentations, mainly development oriented ( part 2) | ||
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+ | [15:01] <ericb2> 3. Education Project Effort : tasks to be scheduled | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:01] <ericb2> 4. Events: some words about Solution Linux (Paris ) | ||
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+ | [15:02] <ericb2> Let's start with new devs and people joining the Education Project | ||
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+ | [15:03] >ChanServ< access #education.openoffice.org add louis_to 10 | ||
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+ | [15:03] -ChanServ- [louis_to] has been added to the access list for #education.openoffice.org with level [10] | ||
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+ | [15:03] -ChanServ/#education.openoffice.org- ericb2!n=eric@aud25-1-88-166-8-11.fbx.proxad.net ACCESS [#education.openoffice.org] ADD | ||
+ | louis_to 10 | ||
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+ | [15:03] * ChanServ gives channel operator status to louis_to | ||
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+ | [15:04] >sorry,< I did some wrong experience with chanserv | ||
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+ | [15:04] * sorry :No such nick/channel | ||
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+ | [15:04] <rbircher> Hello at all | ||
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+ | [15:04] >louis_to< sorry, I did some wrong experience with chanserv | ||
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+ | [15:04] <ericb2> no new people around ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:05] <rbircher> I think no | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:06] <ericb2> I think we should have some (needs confirmation), because some schools are interested to work with us. I'll say more in point 4 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:06] <ericb2> Point 2. Organize a cycle of IRC presentations, mainly development oriented ( part 2) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:06] <ericb2> I received feedback from several people. Not all btw | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:07] * ericb2 searching the wiki page about that .. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:07] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_ClassRoom/Agenda | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:08] <ericb2> as you can see, this is work in progress | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:08] <ericb2> the other important thing, is : some of the people I tried to invite, think IRC is not the best medium | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:09] <ericb2> but we have to start little, and make available everything to a maximum of people | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:09] <rbircher> Wath he propose as medium? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:10] <ericb2> rbircher: Martin Hollmichel (I'll answer him asap) was proposing some Virtual Desktop. I'll ask for further infos | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:11] <ericb2> That's all for today about the point 2 . Questions ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:12] <rbircher> Good idea from Martin Hollmichel, but this use a special software? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:12] <ericb2> rbircher: I don't know. But I fear not all people will be able to join. I really have to discuss with Marting about that. Maybe this is a | ||
+ | easy to do, maybe not | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:13] <ericb2> Next point ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:13] <ericb2> 3. Education Project Effort : tasks to be scheduled | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:13] <ericb2> I already started the task about baseline alignment | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:13] <ericb2> see issue 972 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:14] <IZBot> Formula editor ENHANCEMENT STARTED P3 Alignment of baselines of formula and text in writer http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/ | ||
+ | show_bug.cgi?id=972 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:14] <ericb2> other issues to come, are : issue 81907 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:15] <IZBot> Spreadsheet ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Mouse wheel scrolling jumps http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=81907 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:15] <ericb2> I started to discuss the point with Nicklas Nebel, and I think I have a correct idea. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:16] <ericb2> the last task is about issue 85625 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:16] <IZBot> Chart ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Allow placing axis labels directly at the axis http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85625 | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:16] <ericb2> both issues can be treated as applications with students | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:16] <ericb2> I'll tell more in point 4 | ||
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+ | [15:16] <rbircher> nice | ||
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+ | [15:16] rbircher Remaille | ||
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+ | [15:17] <ericb2> rbircher: some news about the website "relooking" ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:18] <ericb2> Next point ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:18] <rbircher> No, only that I will write a tool, who maks more easely to implement news at collabnet | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:19] <rbircher> But this is not a education issue | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:19] <rbircher> This runs at the Website project | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:19] <ericb2> rbircher: btw, I found something ineresting for you (guessing you read French ) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ | ||
+ | Fr.openoffice.org/Memo_MAJ_Site | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:19] <ericb2> rbircher: could help, Tony wrote interesting tips | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:20] <ericb2> 4. Events: some words about Solution Linux (Paris ) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:21] <ericb2> Jean-Pierre Archambault, from SCEREN / CNDP / CRDP Paris, proposed places on the SCEREN stand, for free softwares. I asked, | ||
+ | and he accepted to invite us | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | [15:22] <ericb2> was the occasion to exxclusively work with French Education people | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:22] <ericb2> more infos on my blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2008/02/solutions-linux-2008-paris.html | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:23] <ericb2> BTW, I forgot to add the important link : http://ooo-education.blogspot.com/2008/02/math-baseline-alignment.html | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:24] <ericb2> now the most important | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:25] <ericb2> furing the Expo, I met several responsible, mainly from Engineers Schools, who are interested to contribute to OpenOffice.org | ||
+ | code, under the form of applications, e.g. solve an issue and write the missing code ..etcc | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:25] <ericb2> And I'll invite all this little world to join us asap | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:25] <ericb2> means once I'll find some time to write all the mails | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:25] <ericb2> again, the idea is to work with peers teachers/students | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:26] <ericb2> and solve real issue in real conditions | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:26] <ericb2> ... and document everything | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:26] <ericb2> Questions ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:27] <Remaille> great ! good job ericb2 ! :-) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:27] <ericb2> that's all for me for today (some news about FOSDEM to come soon ) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:27] <Remaille> most important is " document everything" | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:27] <ericb2> Remaille: thanks :) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <Remaille> and maybe have a common "framework" to give to those peers | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <ericb2> Remaille: I hope so | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <Remaille> maybe | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <ericb2> FYI, I created the entries on the wiki for courses | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <Remaille> a kinf of "cahier des charges" (what is the english for that) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <ericb2> Remaille: specifications ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:28] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Courses | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:29] <Remaille> I mean a "how to code for OOo as a peer student+teacher" | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:29] <ericb2> Remaille: or syllabus, maybe | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:29] <Remaille> yes | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:29] <Remaille> like a one size fits all document to start coding | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:29] <ericb2> Remaille: and everybody is welcome to contribute ! | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:30] <Remaille> (end of week, so i am less clear !) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:30] <ericb2> Remaille: I'll try to explain what I'll do for issue about baseline alignment | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:30] <Remaille> ok :-) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:30] <ericb2> Remaille: discussing with a lot of people, a document is not the good solution for the start. Better mentor the student | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:31] <Remaille> ok | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: because every student wil have a different list of questions | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:31] <Remaille> oups, have to go ! sorry | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: in a different order | ||
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+ | [15:31] <Remaille> see you :) | ||
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+ | [15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: bye à | ||
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+ | [15:31] * Remaille has quit () | ||
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+ | [15:31] <ericb2> Questions ? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:32] <ericb2> Next meeting, same day, same place, same hour ? | ||
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+ | [15:34] <rbircher> Yes | ||
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+ | [15:34] <ericb2> Ok, then if nobody disagrees, next meeting is scheduled on Friday 8th of February 2008, 14:00 UTC or 15:00 CET (Paris Hamburg) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:35] <ericb2> The log is available : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Previous_Education_Meetings_logs/February_2008/1st_February | ||
+ | |||
+ | [15:35] <ericb2> bye all | ||
+ | [[Category:Education]] |
Latest revision as of 18:15, 24 March 2010
[15:00] <ericb2> Meeting time ?
[15:00] <Remaille> yes
[15:00] <Remaille> won't stay further than 15:30 am afraid..
[15:01] <ericb2> Remaille: the meeting shouldn't be too long
[15:01] * ericb2 would like to do some sport outside ;)
[15:01] <ericb2> Agenda for 1st of February 2008 meeting
[15:01] <ericb2> 1. Welcome people and devs joining Education project
[15:01] <ericb2> 2. Organize a cycle of IRC presentations, mainly development oriented ( part 2)
[15:01] <ericb2> 3. Education Project Effort : tasks to be scheduled
[15:01] <ericb2> 4. Events: some words about Solution Linux (Paris )
[15:02] <ericb2> Let's start with new devs and people joining the Education Project
[15:03] >ChanServ< access #education.openoffice.org add louis_to 10
[15:03] -ChanServ- [louis_to] has been added to the access list for #education.openoffice.org with level [10]
[15:03] -ChanServ/#education.openoffice.org- ericb2!n=eric@aud25-1-88-166-8-11.fbx.proxad.net ACCESS [#education.openoffice.org] ADD louis_to 10
[15:03] * ChanServ gives channel operator status to louis_to
[15:04] >sorry,< I did some wrong experience with chanserv
[15:04] * sorry :No such nick/channel
[15:04] <rbircher> Hello at all
[15:04] >louis_to< sorry, I did some wrong experience with chanserv
[15:04] <ericb2> no new people around ?
[15:05] <rbircher> I think no
[15:06] <ericb2> I think we should have some (needs confirmation), because some schools are interested to work with us. I'll say more in point 4
[15:06] <ericb2> Point 2. Organize a cycle of IRC presentations, mainly development oriented ( part 2)
[15:06] <ericb2> I received feedback from several people. Not all btw
[15:07] * ericb2 searching the wiki page about that ..
[15:07] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_ClassRoom/Agenda
[15:08] <ericb2> as you can see, this is work in progress
[15:08] <ericb2> the other important thing, is : some of the people I tried to invite, think IRC is not the best medium
[15:09] <ericb2> but we have to start little, and make available everything to a maximum of people
[15:09] <rbircher> Wath he propose as medium?
[15:10] <ericb2> rbircher: Martin Hollmichel (I'll answer him asap) was proposing some Virtual Desktop. I'll ask for further infos
[15:11] <ericb2> That's all for today about the point 2 . Questions ?
[15:12] <rbircher> Good idea from Martin Hollmichel, but this use a special software?
[15:12] <ericb2> rbircher: I don't know. But I fear not all people will be able to join. I really have to discuss with Marting about that. Maybe this is a easy to do, maybe not
[15:13] <ericb2> Next point ?
[15:13] <ericb2> 3. Education Project Effort : tasks to be scheduled
[15:13] <ericb2> I already started the task about baseline alignment
[15:13] <ericb2> see issue 972
[15:14] <IZBot> Formula editor ENHANCEMENT STARTED P3 Alignment of baselines of formula and text in writer http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/ show_bug.cgi?id=972
[15:14] <ericb2> other issues to come, are : issue 81907
[15:15] <IZBot> Spreadsheet ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Mouse wheel scrolling jumps http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=81907
[15:15] <ericb2> I started to discuss the point with Nicklas Nebel, and I think I have a correct idea.
[15:16] <ericb2> the last task is about issue 85625
[15:16] <IZBot> Chart ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Allow placing axis labels directly at the axis http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85625
[15:16] <ericb2> both issues can be treated as applications with students
[15:16] <ericb2> I'll tell more in point 4
[15:16] <rbircher> nice
[15:16] rbircher Remaille
[15:17] <ericb2> rbircher: some news about the website "relooking" ?
[15:18] <ericb2> Next point ?
[15:18] <rbircher> No, only that I will write a tool, who maks more easely to implement news at collabnet
[15:19] <rbircher> But this is not a education issue
[15:19] <rbircher> This runs at the Website project
[15:19] <ericb2> rbircher: btw, I found something ineresting for you (guessing you read French ) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ Fr.openoffice.org/Memo_MAJ_Site
[15:19] <ericb2> rbircher: could help, Tony wrote interesting tips
[15:20] <ericb2> 4. Events: some words about Solution Linux (Paris )
[15:21] <ericb2> Jean-Pierre Archambault, from SCEREN / CNDP / CRDP Paris, proposed places on the SCEREN stand, for free softwares. I asked, and he accepted to invite us
[15:22] <ericb2> was the occasion to exxclusively work with French Education people
[15:22] <ericb2> more infos on my blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2008/02/solutions-linux-2008-paris.html
[15:23] <ericb2> BTW, I forgot to add the important link : http://ooo-education.blogspot.com/2008/02/math-baseline-alignment.html
[15:24] <ericb2> now the most important
[15:25] <ericb2> furing the Expo, I met several responsible, mainly from Engineers Schools, who are interested to contribute to OpenOffice.org code, under the form of applications, e.g. solve an issue and write the missing code ..etcc
[15:25] <ericb2> And I'll invite all this little world to join us asap
[15:25] <ericb2> means once I'll find some time to write all the mails
[15:25] <ericb2> again, the idea is to work with peers teachers/students
[15:26] <ericb2> and solve real issue in real conditions
[15:26] <ericb2> ... and document everything
[15:26] <ericb2> Questions ?
[15:27] <Remaille> great ! good job ericb2 ! :-)
[15:27] <ericb2> that's all for me for today (some news about FOSDEM to come soon )
[15:27] <Remaille> most important is " document everything"
[15:27] <ericb2> Remaille: thanks :)
[15:28] <Remaille> and maybe have a common "framework" to give to those peers
[15:28] <ericb2> Remaille: I hope so
[15:28] <Remaille> maybe
[15:28] <ericb2> FYI, I created the entries on the wiki for courses
[15:28] <Remaille> a kinf of "cahier des charges" (what is the english for that)
[15:28] <ericb2> Remaille: specifications ?
[15:28] <ericb2> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Courses
[15:29] <Remaille> I mean a "how to code for OOo as a peer student+teacher"
[15:29] <ericb2> Remaille: or syllabus, maybe
[15:29] <Remaille> yes
[15:29] <Remaille> like a one size fits all document to start coding
[15:29] <ericb2> Remaille: and everybody is welcome to contribute !
[15:30] <Remaille> (end of week, so i am less clear !)
[15:30] <ericb2> Remaille: I'll try to explain what I'll do for issue about baseline alignment
[15:30] <Remaille> ok :-)
[15:30] <ericb2> Remaille: discussing with a lot of people, a document is not the good solution for the start. Better mentor the student
[15:31] <Remaille> ok
[15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: because every student wil have a different list of questions
[15:31] <Remaille> oups, have to go ! sorry
[15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: in a different order
[15:31] <Remaille> see you :)
[15:31] <ericb2> Remaille: bye à
[15:31] * Remaille has quit ()
[15:31] <ericb2> Questions ?
[15:32] <ericb2> Next meeting, same day, same place, same hour ?
[15:34] <rbircher> Yes
[15:34] <ericb2> Ok, then if nobody disagrees, next meeting is scheduled on Friday 8th of February 2008, 14:00 UTC or 15:00 CET (Paris Hamburg)
[15:35] <ericb2> The log is available : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Previous_Education_Meetings_logs/February_2008/1st_February
[15:35] <ericb2> bye all