Log Mac Meeting 20th April 2007
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[22:01] <ericb2> Can we start the meeting ?
[22:03] <ismael_> lets start
[22:03] <ericb2> 1. Welcome to Google Sommer of Code 2007 devs
[22:04] <ericb2> we are lucky this year : two students will contribute for the Mac port, during the SoC 2007
[22:05] <ericb2> this first topic has been choosen to welcome them
[22:06] <ericb2> ismael_: Cremlae can you please present yourself briefly ?
[22:06] <plipli> let s go Cremlae ;-)
[22:06] <Cremlae> Sure!
[22:06] <Cremlae> I am not sure what to say still.
[22:07] <Cremlae> I'll be working on the integration of the Mac OS X Address Book into OpenOffice.org.
[22:07] <Cremlae> I'm a recent graduate of the Colorado College, and I'll be attending UCLA next year, in their PhD program.
[22:08] <Cremlae> I'm very excited because I have never before contributed to an open source project before, and I can't wait for the summer to begin.
[22:09] <Cremlae> How is that?
[22:09] <plipli> OK
[22:10] <plipli> Cremlae: you ll be on rail very wuikcly, don t worry
[22:10] <Cremlae> plipli: Thank you for the encouragement :)
[22:11] <ericb2> Cremlae: excellent. what is your first opinion abotu the Mac port of OpenOffice.org ( I'll ask again at the end of SoC ;) )
[22:13] <Cremlae> ericb2: A good question. I've only been listening on the mailing list briefly, so I can't talk much about the development of it, but as a user, I have been awaiting the release of the native port for a long time. I rarely use the current version (using X11), if only because I have to get used to the different key-bindings of other PCs.
[22:14] <Cremlae> ericb2: As for the community, so far everyone has been extremely nice :)
[22:14] <ericb2> Cremlae: thank you :)
[22:15] <ericb2> Cremlae: I'm sure you'll test the aqua verson soon. Of course, there is a lot of work, but this is the begining
[22:15] <ericb2> s/verson/version/
[22:16] <Cremlae> ericb2: It's exciting to be a part of that "lot of work" :)
[22:18] <ericb2> Cremlae: I remember I fxied some Mozilla adress book bugs, and I have some infos where some relevant code can be. But there is no guarantee :)
[22:18] <ericb2> Cremlae: OpenOffice.org code is .. ocean of code
[22:20] <Cremlae> ericb2: Thanks! I'll try not to bother you too much, but if I find that I am struggling, it's good to know someone who has looked at that area of the code.
[22:22] <ismael_> It's now time to present my self: I'm a student at INSA of Lyon (France). I'm 19.
[22:22] <ismael_> I'll be working on implementing aqua controls, continuing the work ericb2 started
[22:23] <ismael_> i'm very excited too, because the GSOC is a great experience
[22:25] <ericb2> ismael_: to complete a bit, you are present in the Team since some time, and are already a DomainDeveloper .. and contributing very good things !
[22:25] <ericb2> About aqua controls : to be more correct, several people worked in that area : Stephan Shaefer, Dan Williams are the original authors of this part of code. aliscafo ( alias Pierre de Filippis worked with we on it), and lastly, Pavel Janik proposed some very interresting code
[22:26] <ismael_> ericb2: yes you're right, there's also plipli who worked on HIview
[22:26] * shaunmcdonald is back
[22:26] <ericb2> ismael_: and me too ( HIComboboxes )
[22:27] <ericb2> ismael_: but for the clean code, plipli is the man :)
[22:31] <ericb2> ismael_: Cremlae , thank you very much, and let's go !
[22:31] <ericb2> next point ?
[22:32] <ericb2> 2. Latest Aqua news
[22:32] <ericb2> plipli: ?
[22:32] <ismael_> i committed a patch for mouse cursors
[22:33] <ismael_> it implements the main 18 out of 94 used cursors in OOo
[22:33] <ericb2> ismael_: 94 ? uff .. Do you think implement all will be a good thing ?
[22:33] <ismael_> the cursors are the system cursors
[22:34] <ismael_> ericb2: yes they are almost all used, so their implementation is in my opinion necessary
[22:34] <ericb2> ismael_: ok. I believe you :)
[22:35] <ericb2> ismael_: I saw you documented salfram wiki page too
[22:35] <ismael_> for most of the missing cursors, we'll have to use Cocoa code to load cursors from OOo ressources
[22:36] <ismael_> because they haven't any equivalent in the themes cursors (mac os X cursors)
[22:36] <ismael_> for more informations see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_Cursors
[22:36] <ericb2> ismael_: feel free to contact Florian Heckl for Cocoa issues on OpenOffice.org. I know he's got a good Cocoa knowledge
[22:36] <ismael_> by ericb2 and Yvan Barthelemy
[22:37] <ericb2> ismael_: indeed
[22:37] <ismael_> ericb2: ok
[22:37] <ericb2> other aqua news ?
[22:37] <ismael_> i have also documenta
[22:37] <ismael_> i have also documented salframe on the wiki
[22:37] <ismael_> see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_salframe
[22:38] <ismael_> this page explains how salframe works
[22:38] <ismael_> with some screenshots
[22:38] <ismael_> it is still work in progress but the main part has been written
[22:38] <ericb2> thank you very much ismael_ : this is a nice work !
[22:39] <ericb2> other Aqua news ?
[22:39] <shaunmcdonald> 3. Top 10 Status
[22:40] <ericb2> please wait :)
[22:40] <ismael_> mikesic has done a great work on fixing tooltip crashing
[22:40] <ismael_> and is nearly at a complete solution
[22:41] <ericb2> ismael_: is the patch complete and ready for commit ?
[22:41] <ismael_> IMHO, no there are still some crashes but the solution is not very far
[22:41] <ericb2> ismael_: good
[22:42] <ericb2> Lest continue with point 3 : Top 10 status
[22:42] <ericb2> from my side, 10 minutes before the meeting, I have tested a new patch for the bundle
[22:42] <mikesic> ismael_: Can you add your observations about the crashes to the issue?
[22:42] >mikesic< thanks for your work :)
[22:43] <ismael_> mikesic: tooltips appear over the others which are not hidden and them, ooo crashes
[22:43] <ismael_> s/them/then
[22:43] <ismael_> mikesic: but i didn't apply the last part of the patch concerning events
[22:44] <ismael_> mikesic: i don't know why tooltips don't disappear when the mouse leave the button
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