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[22:44] <ismael_> mikesic: i don't know why tooltips don't disappear when the mouse leave the button | [22:44] <ismael_> mikesic: i don't know why tooltips don't disappear when the mouse leave the button | ||
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+ | [22:45] <mikesic> ismael_: For me, they do. Maybe something in the part you didn't apply? | ||
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+ | [22:46] <ismael_> mikesic: i will try with a clean version of salframe, because mine has the code for dialogs | ||
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+ | [22:46] * plipli has integrated HI framework in salframe | ||
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+ | [22:46] <ismael_> plipli: did you commit it? | ||
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+ | [22:46] <plipli> I finally found the good apple sample to integrate HIFramework in our vcl/aqua | ||
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+ | [22:47] <plipli> No I can t commit it becauses I did not had time to clean my first failed trial out of the code of salframe | ||
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+ | [22:47] <ismael_> plipli: ok | ||
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+ | [22:47] <plipli> ASA I 'll have cleaned out the previous code, I ll provide a patch to test | ||
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+ | [22:47] <ericb2> plipli: +1 | ||
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+ | [22:48] <plipli> HIFrmaework gives many methodes/helpers to manage event for HIObjetcs : views, controls, etc | ||
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+ | [22:48] <plipli> It will allow ismael_ towork faster | ||
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+ | [22:48] <mikesic> plipli: That's great - I am excited to see it ;) | ||
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+ | [22:48] <ericb2> plipli: and other ;) | ||
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+ | [22:49] <plipli> ismael_: with thoses functions integration of controls will be easiest because of pre existing methode to set/get various | ||
+ | information in events on HIViews controls | ||
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+ | [22:49] <ismael_> plipli: yes, i have read a bit the documentation on HI* (HIView, HIThemes, ...) | ||
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+ | [22:50] * plipli will go to sleep (too tired after such a week...) | ||
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+ | [22:50] <ismael_> plipli: good night | ||
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+ | [22:50] * plipli will read the logs tomorrow, see you later | ||
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+ | [22:50] <plipli> good night | ||
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+ | [22:50] <Cremlae> plipli: good night! | ||
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+ | [22:50] <plipli> ismael_: see you monday at 17h30 at MDE ? | ||
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+ | [22:50] <mikesic> plipli: Can you share the reference to the sample code you are using for HIView - so we can all understand it better? | ||
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+ | [22:51] <ismael_> plipli: no problem | ||
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+ | [22:52] <plipli> mikesic: sure, give me a sec | ||
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+ | [22:52] <plipli> http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/HIFramework/ | ||
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+ | [22:53] <mikesic> plipli: Thanks :) | ||
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+ | [22:53] <plipli> and http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/HIViewTest/ | ||
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+ | [22:53] <plipli> bye | ||
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+ | [22:53] * plipli has quit () | ||
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+ | [22:54] <ericb2> point 3 : Top 10 status ? | ||
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+ | [22:54] <ericb2> as I said, from my side, 10 minutes before the meeting, I have tested a new patch for the bundle | ||
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+ | [22:54] <ericb2> this patch simply works | ||
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+ | [22:54] <ericb2> :) | ||
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+ | [22:54] <ericb2> but needs testers : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/mac/i73693/no_symlink/i73693_test.diff | ||
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+ | [22:55] <ericb2> be carefull, I'm not sure what I propose is clean at all, and those changes need Oliver and Pavel expertise | ||
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+ | [22:55] <ericb2> concerned Top 10 issue is issue 73693 | ||
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+ | [22:56] <IZBot> porting DEFECT STARTED aquavcl01->modify Bundle tree for native version http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi? | ||
+ | id=73693 | ||
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+ | [22:56] <ericb2> I'll add the patch on the AquaBuild page, as soon as people confirmed it works .. or not | ||
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+ | [22:57] <ericb2> mikesic: gdb works, not Xcode, for the same exact reason Pavel script does not allow to use XCode without a hack : | ||
+ | soffice.bin does contain a dot in the name | ||
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+ | [22:57] <mikesic> ericb2: :) | ||
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+ | [22:59] <ericb2> Other Top 10 relative issue : Stephan Schaefer ( alias ssa on IRC ) explained me what we should do to fix system font issues | ||
+ | in the UI ( e.g. popup menus use an uggly font, while mani menubar uses real system fonts) | ||
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+ | [22:59] <ericb2> I'll have a look into this part of code : SetFont () in salgdi.cxx is the key | ||
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+ | [23:00] <ericb2> Nothing else from me about Top 10 | ||
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[22:01] <ericb2> Can we start the meeting ?
[22:03] <ismael_> lets start
[22:03] <ericb2> 1. Welcome to Google Sommer of Code 2007 devs
[22:04] <ericb2> we are lucky this year : two students will contribute for the Mac port, during the SoC 2007
[22:05] <ericb2> this first topic has been choosen to welcome them
[22:06] <ericb2> ismael_: Cremlae can you please present yourself briefly ?
[22:06] <plipli> let s go Cremlae ;-)
[22:06] <Cremlae> Sure!
[22:06] <Cremlae> I am not sure what to say still.
[22:07] <Cremlae> I'll be working on the integration of the Mac OS X Address Book into OpenOffice.org.
[22:07] <Cremlae> I'm a recent graduate of the Colorado College, and I'll be attending UCLA next year, in their PhD program.
[22:08] <Cremlae> I'm very excited because I have never before contributed to an open source project before, and I can't wait for the summer to begin.
[22:09] <Cremlae> How is that?
[22:09] <plipli> OK
[22:10] <plipli> Cremlae: you ll be on rail very wuikcly, don t worry
[22:10] <Cremlae> plipli: Thank you for the encouragement :)
[22:11] <ericb2> Cremlae: excellent. what is your first opinion abotu the Mac port of OpenOffice.org ( I'll ask again at the end of SoC ;) )
[22:13] <Cremlae> ericb2: A good question. I've only been listening on the mailing list briefly, so I can't talk much about the development of it, but as a user, I have been awaiting the release of the native port for a long time. I rarely use the current version (using X11), if only because I have to get used to the different key-bindings of other PCs.
[22:14] <Cremlae> ericb2: As for the community, so far everyone has been extremely nice :)
[22:14] <ericb2> Cremlae: thank you :)
[22:15] <ericb2> Cremlae: I'm sure you'll test the aqua verson soon. Of course, there is a lot of work, but this is the begining
[22:15] <ericb2> s/verson/version/
[22:16] <Cremlae> ericb2: It's exciting to be a part of that "lot of work" :)
[22:18] <ericb2> Cremlae: I remember I fxied some Mozilla adress book bugs, and I have some infos where some relevant code can be. But there is no guarantee :)
[22:18] <ericb2> Cremlae: OpenOffice.org code is .. ocean of code
[22:20] <Cremlae> ericb2: Thanks! I'll try not to bother you too much, but if I find that I am struggling, it's good to know someone who has looked at that area of the code.
[22:22] <ismael_> It's now time to present my self: I'm a student at INSA of Lyon (France). I'm 19.
[22:22] <ismael_> I'll be working on implementing aqua controls, continuing the work ericb2 started
[22:23] <ismael_> i'm very excited too, because the GSOC is a great experience
[22:25] <ericb2> ismael_: to complete a bit, you are present in the Team since some time, and are already a DomainDeveloper .. and contributing very good things !
[22:25] <ericb2> About aqua controls : to be more correct, several people worked in that area : Stephan Shaefer, Dan Williams are the original authors of this part of code. aliscafo ( alias Pierre de Filippis worked with we on it), and lastly, Pavel Janik proposed some very interresting code
[22:26] <ismael_> ericb2: yes you're right, there's also plipli who worked on HIview
[22:26] * shaunmcdonald is back
[22:26] <ericb2> ismael_: and me too ( HIComboboxes )
[22:27] <ericb2> ismael_: but for the clean code, plipli is the man :)
[22:31] <ericb2> ismael_: Cremlae , thank you very much, and let's go !
[22:31] <ericb2> next point ?
[22:32] <ericb2> 2. Latest Aqua news
[22:32] <ericb2> plipli: ?
[22:32] <ismael_> i committed a patch for mouse cursors
[22:33] <ismael_> it implements the main 18 out of 94 used cursors in OOo
[22:33] <ericb2> ismael_: 94 ? uff .. Do you think implement all will be a good thing ?
[22:33] <ismael_> the cursors are the system cursors
[22:34] <ismael_> ericb2: yes they are almost all used, so their implementation is in my opinion necessary
[22:34] <ericb2> ismael_: ok. I believe you :)
[22:35] <ericb2> ismael_: I saw you documented salfram wiki page too
[22:35] <ismael_> for most of the missing cursors, we'll have to use Cocoa code to load cursors from OOo ressources
[22:36] <ismael_> because they haven't any equivalent in the themes cursors (mac os X cursors)
[22:36] <ismael_> for more informations see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_Cursors
[22:36] <ericb2> ismael_: feel free to contact Florian Heckl for Cocoa issues on OpenOffice.org. I know he's got a good Cocoa knowledge
[22:36] <ismael_> by ericb2 and Yvan Barthelemy
[22:37] <ericb2> ismael_: indeed
[22:37] <ismael_> ericb2: ok
[22:37] <ericb2> other aqua news ?
[22:37] <ismael_> i have also documenta
[22:37] <ismael_> i have also documented salframe on the wiki
[22:37] <ismael_> see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_salframe
[22:38] <ismael_> this page explains how salframe works
[22:38] <ismael_> with some screenshots
[22:38] <ismael_> it is still work in progress but the main part has been written
[22:38] <ericb2> thank you very much ismael_ : this is a nice work !
[22:39] <ericb2> other Aqua news ?
[22:39] <shaunmcdonald> 3. Top 10 Status
[22:40] <ericb2> please wait :)
[22:40] <ismael_> mikesic has done a great work on fixing tooltip crashing
[22:40] <ismael_> and is nearly at a complete solution
[22:41] <ericb2> ismael_: is the patch complete and ready for commit ?
[22:41] <ismael_> IMHO, no there are still some crashes but the solution is not very far
[22:41] <ericb2> ismael_: good
[22:42] <ericb2> Lest continue with point 3 : Top 10 status
[22:42] <ericb2> from my side, 10 minutes before the meeting, I have tested a new patch for the bundle
[22:42] <mikesic> ismael_: Can you add your observations about the crashes to the issue?
[22:42] >mikesic< thanks for your work :)
[22:43] <ismael_> mikesic: tooltips appear over the others which are not hidden and them, ooo crashes
[22:43] <ismael_> s/them/then
[22:43] <ismael_> mikesic: but i didn't apply the last part of the patch concerning events
[22:44] <ismael_> mikesic: i don't know why tooltips don't disappear when the mouse leave the button
[22:45] <mikesic> ismael_: For me, they do. Maybe something in the part you didn't apply?
[22:46] <ismael_> mikesic: i will try with a clean version of salframe, because mine has the code for dialogs
[22:46] * plipli has integrated HI framework in salframe
[22:46] <ismael_> plipli: did you commit it?
[22:46] <plipli> I finally found the good apple sample to integrate HIFramework in our vcl/aqua
[22:47] <plipli> No I can t commit it becauses I did not had time to clean my first failed trial out of the code of salframe
[22:47] <ismael_> plipli: ok
[22:47] <plipli> ASA I 'll have cleaned out the previous code, I ll provide a patch to test
[22:47] <ericb2> plipli: +1
[22:48] <plipli> HIFrmaework gives many methodes/helpers to manage event for HIObjetcs : views, controls, etc
[22:48] <plipli> It will allow ismael_ towork faster
[22:48] <mikesic> plipli: That's great - I am excited to see it ;)
[22:48] <ericb2> plipli: and other ;)
[22:49] <plipli> ismael_: with thoses functions integration of controls will be easiest because of pre existing methode to set/get various information in events on HIViews controls
[22:49] <ismael_> plipli: yes, i have read a bit the documentation on HI* (HIView, HIThemes, ...)
[22:50] * plipli will go to sleep (too tired after such a week...)
[22:50] <ismael_> plipli: good night
[22:50] * plipli will read the logs tomorrow, see you later
[22:50] <plipli> good night
[22:50] <Cremlae> plipli: good night!
[22:50] <plipli> ismael_: see you monday at 17h30 at MDE ?
[22:50] <mikesic> plipli: Can you share the reference to the sample code you are using for HIView - so we can all understand it better?
[22:51] <ismael_> plipli: no problem
[22:52] <plipli> mikesic: sure, give me a sec
[22:52] <plipli> http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/HIFramework/
[22:53] <mikesic> plipli: Thanks :)
[22:53] <plipli> and http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/HIViewTest/
[22:53] <plipli> bye
[22:53] * plipli has quit ()
[22:54] <ericb2> point 3 : Top 10 status ?
[22:54] <ericb2> as I said, from my side, 10 minutes before the meeting, I have tested a new patch for the bundle
[22:54] <ericb2> this patch simply works
[22:54] <ericb2> :)
[22:54] <ericb2> but needs testers : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/mac/i73693/no_symlink/i73693_test.diff
[22:55] <ericb2> be carefull, I'm not sure what I propose is clean at all, and those changes need Oliver and Pavel expertise
[22:55] <ericb2> concerned Top 10 issue is issue 73693
[22:56] <IZBot> porting DEFECT STARTED aquavcl01->modify Bundle tree for native version http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi? id=73693
[22:56] <ericb2> I'll add the patch on the AquaBuild page, as soon as people confirmed it works .. or not
[22:57] <ericb2> mikesic: gdb works, not Xcode, for the same exact reason Pavel script does not allow to use XCode without a hack : soffice.bin does contain a dot in the name
[22:57] <mikesic> ericb2: :)
[22:59] <ericb2> Other Top 10 relative issue : Stephan Schaefer ( alias ssa on IRC ) explained me what we should do to fix system font issues in the UI ( e.g. popup menus use an uggly font, while mani menubar uses real system fonts)
[22:59] <ericb2> I'll have a look into this part of code : SetFont () in salgdi.cxx is the key
[23:00] <ericb2> Nothing else from me about Top 10
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